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but the mass of humanity and i've seen this in your interview with bill moyers when somebody suggested a return to new deal type politics and institutions seems to be rejected that is not a possibility. we can't reverse the trajectory we have now. so given that, do you have any notifications to how it can be improved, how it can stop the depletion? but would you recommend? >> i don't mean this is a copout at all, but there's a lot of intellectual work people have to do. i really strongly think it's a mistake for people on the left, liberals, whatever you call them to say let's go back to the 1950s. mostly because i don't think those jobs exist anymore. not enough of them. even when people are saying this is the return of manufacturing and how great i was. have you looked at the wages now being paid in detroit for the newly hired people? is $13, $15? >> in norway, quite successful societies, salaries are very high. germany as well. >> normally is different because of oil. >> i think sweden and germany -- >> in japan. i'd be careful about drawing too much for japan. i think that sweden, denmark a
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